You’ll Not Believe What Pastor Kumuyi Has To Say About Celebrating Christmas

The General Overseer of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry, Pastor W.F Kumuyi, has again warned members of the church against celebrating Christmas, saying the annual celebration of Christmas is idolatrous and unscriptural.

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Kumuyi warned that partaking in the celebration made Christians to go back from the commandment of Jesus Christ.

The cleric said this on Saturday at the annual national December convention of the church, which held at the church’s camp ground in Ogun State.

He said, “We don’t celebrate Christmas. It actually came from idolatrous background. That is why you don’t hear us sing what they call Christmas carol, Never! We always say it is the December retreat. We are only gathering together because it is the holiday period and love the lord more, and rededicate ourselves more.

“When you find anybody coming in, or any leader, trying to introduce the idolatry of mystery Babylon, that they call Christmas and you want to bring all the Christmas carol saying that is the day that Jesus was born, and you don’t find that in the Acts of the Apostles or in the early church, then you don’t find that in the church either.  If you don’t know that before, now you know.”

He warned that any of the church’s leaders that tried to introduce the “idolatry of Christmas” into any section of the church would be sanctioned, while also encouraging other believers in Christ to jettison the celebration as part of their sacrifice to perfection.

Kumuyi said the duty of the church was to make people more like Jesus Christ and not join in worldly celebrations.

“We are not trying to make the church turn like the world. We want it to be like Jesus Christ, and more like the Apostles. If you don’t have that mind with us, then you have permission to go to other places,” he added.

But the Director of Social Communications, Catholic Archdiocese of Lagos, Monsignor Gabriel Osu, in his reaction to Kumuyi’s proclamation, said, “I don’t know what he means by saying the practice of celebrating Christmas is wrong.

“Is he saying that Christ wasn’t born? That he didn’t come to die for us? Does he not celebrate his own birthday? Do Kumuyi’s pastors not celebrate him? It is not everything I react to; some people just seek attention. If Kumuyi is a Christian, then he must believe in Christ.

“The celebration of Christmas didn’t just start today; it is too public an event for anyone to say that they don’t know what it is about. “If Kumuyi is condemning the commercialisation of Christmas, I can understand that. Christ came to redeem us from our lost state; this was actualised through his coming, his birth; that is why we celebrate Christmas. It is the fulfilment of God’s promise.”

 “I saw him on the television a few days ago. He was in Akwa Ibom State and was the chief preacher during their Christmas celebration event. Kumuyi is just saying what he feels; he is not making any doctrinal statement.”

The spokesperson for the Christian Association of Nigeria, Oshodi chapter, Lagos State, Pastor Barnabas Otoibhi, said that Christmas was worth celebrating.

Otoibhi told one our correspondents in a telephone interview that the origin of Christmas was not as important as its essence.

He said, “The origin of Christmas, as we know it, could be traced to Roman Emperor, Constantine. Christmas was a day for celebrating the Sun God. However, because Constantine was a Christian, the day was changed to commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ.

“The tradition has continued to date and since the aim of Christmas is to celebrate Jesus since there is nothing bad in honouring Jesus. Also, the worship of the Sun God was done in Rome and not everywhere in the world, so it is not part of our history.

“We mark Christmas with the singing of songs as a day, which has now been consecrated.”

Source: Punch Nigeria

142 COMMENTS

  1. Pastor Kumuyi is very right, how can we convert a day for celebrating the Suns god which was pratice by unbelievers to the day to celebrate our Lord Jesus Christ? it is wrong, that is exactly the same mistake made by the Christians of those early days that they accepted the worship of idols by the Romans Empire and mix it with the worship of Jesus and came up with what is called Roman Catholic which is not a full Christian Religion but a mixture of Christianity with idol worship of the Roman Empire of those days hence we have things like purgatory etc in Catholic Church today which is not in the Bible.

  2. This is something Jehovah’s witnesses have been preaching since over 80years now; imagine!!! Who knows what other things we presently know that will become clearer to people much later. I’m proud to be a Jehovah Witness and grateful to Jehovah for the undeserved kindness to know the truth. We are a free people because we know the truth. Check http://www.jw.org for more truths about God, Jesus and general living. We all must learn to speak and teach bible truth always despite ridicule and aparthy.

  3. Why must his retreat be held in the same season when christmas is being celebrated? D tins he said his members shld nt do r d tins they r doing. Did u remember his son’s weding last time? What about tv? But he is now on satelite. I have respect 4 him but will not agree wit him on some tins. Nothing is wrong dt a date is fixd to b happy dt our is borne. Hw did he know dt sunday is d first or last day in d weak & he worshp on it.

  4. I commend the response by Captain Fola Daniel. Adding to that, is the fact that idolatry cannot be tailored towards God’s worship. Why not celebrate Jesus’ birth on another date and call it another name and not xmas? The truth is that the Holy Bible says having known the Truth, the Truth will set you free. Pastor Kumuyi has known the Truth, he is free and he is passionately helping many others to discover the Truth, also. Why did the apostles not take xmas as a doctrine just like water baptism and Lord’s supper? Who does not know that the human beings like fun, singing, marrying and dancing all in the name of xmas? Just imagine, many teenage girls get impregnated this so called xmas time. Is it not so in your community?

    No one worships pastor W.F.Kumuyi. He wont ever allow u do that to him. So many church founders actually like to be worshipped but not Pastor Kumuyi.

    • Pls we should vouch for wat is ryt. If deeper life members don’t wish to celebrate Christmas it shouldn’t be publicised so as to intimidate other dominion because at the look of things that’s how it is. Why don’t you pple stay from any celebration at……our preachers shouldn’t put fear to their members because while I was in school during Christmas Carol its the deeper life members that that took the lead…… merry Christmas

  5. It is only God almighty that know’s who n who is a true woshiper,if we don’t have things to say let’s shut up n stop taking sides with anybody.judgement day leaves you on your own,no pastor will speak for those of u taking blind sides.nobody is worthy to judge anytin or anybody.

  6. When jesus was born there was celebration, why wf kumuyi select some parts of the bible that serve his interest ? Bible should be undertood as whole without picking any part that serve one interest. Otherwise he is just preaching ignorance and brain worshing his members.

  7. Who says d bible condemns celebration? When Jesus was born, didn’t d bible record it as a thg of celebration? Y den did d 3wise men 4rm 3 different continents come wth their royal presents 2 c d Child Jesus @ Bethlehem? There is no ever time they will carry their propaganda wthout making sure they condemn d Catholic doctrine n practices. The Church of Christ was found upon Christ d “Chief corner Stone” n it has been existing since ages n He said “d gate of hell shall not prevail….” propaganda against Catholic church did not start 2day n will not end 2day n d Church will continue 2 grow so long as God liveth.

  8. Everybody with his own business. This are one of the problems we may be facing since Lagbaja and Kemedo will just wake up some day and go on starting his/ her own church as business. The worst part if it they will say its God that called him,yes God do call people to work for him but never said you should go and start you church and before you know it they will start criticizing other church, turning the whole Bible passages upside down. May God help us.

  9. This means Jesus (Isah – Alaehi solat wasalaam) was not born on 25th December. Then, why the celebration? Why not fix his birthday on the actual date he was born instead of a day that was fixed for the celebration of sun god day? Allah Subhanahu Watahala knows the best and HE knows who are HIS true worshippers.

  10. hmmm! Christians are the architects of problems in christianity. If you don’t celebrate christmas(Christ’s Mass),why do you accept to minister the gospel to milions of people that gather to celebrate the christmas,and throughout your preaching you never open your mouth to tell them that what they are doing is wrong? Church Founders & leader should stop deceiving the people & generating more problems in the church of the Living God.

  11. the date & month of Christ’s birth is not given by the bible. But the christians have chosen 25th December to celebrate the child that was born. This exercise helps to turn many from the ungodly practices & celebrations of the pagans into worshipping Christ.

  12. what is the origin of Christmas? why Is Christmas and valentine celebrated with red colour? what does the spirit of Christmas really mean? BEWARE, this is sign of lastdays, at the last days there shall be increase in knowledge and so many shall ignore…….. whosoever adds to the words of the bible,there shall be judgement on him here on earth…. pastor kumuyi is right. God bless yu

  13. from all indication christians have been celebrating the sun god unknowingly and kumuyi effort is to correct that but as always they want to castigate him. where in the bible is christmas or the word christians mentioned, who told them that the roman king of costatine was a christian,he was known to be an idol worshiper,so they deceived nowadays christians into celebrating an idol.no where in the bible that it was commanded to celebrate this idol god of the sun.

  14. HAS GOD EVER CONFUSED ANYONE ABOUT THIS CELEBRATION? SINCE THE DAY IT STARTED,SINCE D TIME U GIVE UR LIFE TO CHRIST,AV U EVER RECEIVE ANY WARNING AGAINST THIS CELEBRATION..PEOPLE,WE AV TO BE VERY CAREFUL.WE SHOULD NT ALLOW D UNBELIEVERS TO MOCK ND EMBARRASS US. LET US LV ARGUMENT ALONE ND FACE WHAT THE LORD CALLED US FOR. PREACH THE GOSPEL IT SAID,NOT “GO ND ARGUE”. THIS IS THE SIGNS OF D END TIME…BEWARE!!

  15. If u ar confused ask d holyspirit dat knws all tins to tell u wats right…..4 me christmas is d celebration of christ birth,we ar nt contending d fact dat 25th is d actual day christ was born bt its in dis harmattan season so d church choosed dis day 4 us 2 celebrate his birth n remember some1 was born 4 our salvation…its nt about d food drinks n clothes dos ar nt necessarily d celebration its d remember of a saviour born 4 mankind…..many do terrible tins all in d name of celebrating christ birth bt its bcos of d ignorance of d actual reason 4 d season…God help d body of christ

  16. @ Captain Fola Daniel, did you know that Sunday was also converted to a day of worship by christians? Did you know that Sunday was also a day of worship for the sun god? Did you know that the sabbath is on Saturday? I guess you go to church on Sundays, does it mean you go to worship the sun god? #justasking# The reason for xmas is Christ. What then is wrong with celebrating Him?

  17. Nonsense. Is it only things in the bible that we practice? Tell me, is retreat in the bible? You should also tell me that we should not drive car because car is not in the bible. Forget Kumuyi and his religious dogmatism

  18. God d creator of d universe own evytin,both day an night,2 recall d birth of Jesus marks d day of salvatn,redemtn,an eterna life.Even wen christ was born d angels of d lord came down rejoicing.An pass d informatn 2 d three wise men,so is should b a day were christians com 2geda 2a appreciate an giv thnks 2 God.D work of God an celebratn of Jesus shud nt b compare 2 dat of devil.Days of celebratn means nottin,a date of one’s birth can also b 4 others death.Brethren d num 1 tin is 2 fear God an kep is commandmet,an evrytin shud b done decently.I thnk God 4 d birth of Jesus christ 4 tru Him i am save.

  19. WHAT EVER WE DO MUST HAS PURPOSE OF DOING IT SO DONT LET US JUSTIFY EACH OTHER ABOUT THESE,AS FOR ME I STILL SUPPORT THE CELEBRATION OF THY LORD JESUS B’COS HE WORTHY IT SO BY SAYING IS NOT GOOD TO IS OF NO USED AND IF WE CONTINUE ARGUING WE CONTINUE TO COMMITED SIN AGENTS GOD so let not give devil a chance in our life if u dont say a’m a muslim

  20. I jst wonder hw we humans think!we claim to know the bible,but how many of us live by it.hypocrites wat we are.u say christmas is idolatorous?nw thk:if my birthday falls on d feast day of my village juju(god) nd i decide 2 celebrate my bday does it i’m worshiping my village juju? Celebrating the birth of christ on the day of any so called does ‘sun-god’does nt mean worshipping dat god.the birth ov our lord Jesus Christ supercedes any other celebration.pls christians be wise.i celebrate christmas nd i knw dat i worship no idol!

  21. Sunday and Christmas, days of worshiping the sun god
    The 365 days have deities attached to them. Choose anyday, it must fall On one Of the Roman predetermined days of worship.
    Let’s celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ every day including Christmas day.
    Wishing you all merry Christmas.

  22. Christmas was coined from christ + mas. mas is an idol worshipped in Rome every dec 25. and if u will look at it properly, u find out dat christ was not born in december, n even if a day has to be chosen,it shd Nt be dec 25, a day when “mas” an idol is worshiped annually. Let him dat has ears, let him hear What d spirit says to the churches.

  23. Am here to tackle leon j its very bad u should say u hate d church deeper life,if I may ask which church do u attend? Cus this church u are criticizing has d best say in d world nd what pastor W.F KUMUYI is saying is very right nd don’t u read d bible if u do u would encounter it by yourself not say bad thought about d church even wen christ was born nobody on this earth knows when he was born we only took decision to celebrate it so pls careful with what you say about churches thanks

  24. Hmmmmnnnn? Christmas or no Christmas, the fact remains that Christ was born, He died n rose again n more importantly, He is coming again.U n I shld be concerned about heaven n not arguement.Ask urself “Is my name in the book of life?”Be sober n be vigilant.God bless you.

  25. And if any man think that he knoweth anything, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. But if any man love God, the same is known of him… For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many), BUT TO US THERE IS BUT ONE GOD, the father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by Him…. (1Cor. 8:2ff). My conclusion is that since we have one God, one Lord Jesus Christ to Him be glory for ever and ever amen. Celebrating His birth on Dec 25 is not a sin, so far U’re celebrating Christ and not gods. D date may be the same but d purpose is different. Thanks.

  26. I think what pastor kumuyi is saying is based on his own understanding. How did he know that christmas is idolatry is writing in the bible. If he don’t celebrating xmas he should keep quit and allow those who is celebrating to be. The bible say rejioce with those who are rejiocing

  27. Jesus him self did not celebrate his birthday, watin con be our own… Obviously Christmas celebration has been a division to worship ‘sun god’. I just still believe its a thing of the heart. Christ is ma Savior not not sun god.

  28. Dear happiness
    Kumuyi is only a bible student who cannot reason along with others
    If I may ask how old is kumuyi & how long has Christmas be celebrated in the world
    My advise to him is that he should write his own bible with his doctrine for his followers
    He should stop Sunday service as well
    If there is no birth there is no death too
    Both Christmas and Easter there is no fix date in the bible is just a description of time
    For example the Easter period ;–

    In the Bible (St. Luke, Chapter 22) we have a description of how Jesus ate the Passover with his disciples before going to Gethsemane. The Last Supper, the Agony in the Garden and the Crucifixion were at the time of the full moon following March 21st (Spring Equinox). The hurry to remove the body from the cross before the beginning of the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday) fixes the Crucifixion on a Friday.

  29. firstly, God owns all dys of d wk Gen 1. wen christianity began ther ws nthing called bible as we av it 2dy. ther were men n wmen wh preached d wrd frm christ. these p’ple later constitute d chrch, Act 21:17-26. d wrd of God ws verbal nt written. dis ws d case for 500 yrs after christ death yet d church of God thrived under hrd oposition. Jesus gv d chrch pwer to bind n lose i.e d chrch hd, n stil av d pwer to change wht is to wht is nt and it is binding on heaven and earth Mt 16:19.dat is why d chrch haven converted rome in d 13th century, n in other to pull God’s p’ple awy frm idolatory, won d feast of d sun god, d highest feast in d whole world den, n gv it to d King of kings as birthday gift. jst as ws dn sunday etc. by d action of constintine who ws d 1st roman christian emperor it ws easy 4 christianity to spread fast to dis day whn we av Past kumuyi b/cos rome ruled d world den. anyone therefore rejecting chritmas should as well reject sunday etc as dey wer all named after roman gods n feasts.

  30. some people just go to the church not to get the word but to destroy the word. if he want to know more about Christmas go and Google about the origin of Christmas. you don’t just go to the gathering of children of God and try to destroy the place.

  31. I don’t understand us Christians, the issue should be how u celebrate Christmas and not the other way round, i’ve seen many comments, and i found out that so many of us do not have words of our own, if December 25th that was formally used to celebrate pagan festival was changed to the celebration of Christ birth, i don’t see anything wrong with it, the question is how do u celebrate this day, Jesus Christ gave 2 commandment which are; love God above all things and love ur neighbour as i’ve loved u, and it is that same love that we celebrate during xmas by sharing, giving, caring e.t.c , do u know some people don’t visit the poor and the less-privilege persons unless is xmas? some find it difficult to give gift unless is xmas, i say it again it is how u decide to celebrate yours that matters, a born-again will always be a born-again, and a pagan will always be a pagan xmas or no xmas. Let us not attribute whatever that is happening in the period to be caused by xmas celebration. Now, some say is not biblical, where is it written in the bible that we must put on clothes, or we must eat, or we must bathe our body, let us consider this things, we honour and celebrate people with outstanding qualities dead or alive, we even build edifice to commemorate them. True or false? but we feel we can’t do even more for the one who brought us salvation. Finally, whether u celebrate xmas or not, is not a visa to heaven. Always fix your heart towards God. But u can celebrate by giving alms, caring for the widow and the needy, u can visit the prison and share love and God’s word. And i remind u, Christ is the reason for the season. God bless us all.

  32. The truth of the matter is that christmas is not a biblical doctrine. Jesus while on earth never instructed his disciples to celebrate the date of his birth rather he emphasised his death as been of grater importance to them. The only celebration he required of them was the remembrance of his death and he gave specific instructions on how this was to be done.Christmas, either some of us choose to accept it or not has no biblical origin

  33. The holy scripture is jst briefing what happened many years back, but any1 wit true spirit wil understnd it. Every tin dat happened can nt be put into written. If christian choose to worship on friday, it dosn’t mean dey are muslim. Noting is wrong wit christmas celebration ooo. But only wrong if u celebrate in a bad way! Show love to others.

  34. I love him(pastor w.f kumuyi) and I don’t care what ppl says about him cause he always stand by d truth….u ppl should go for a research before condemning him….we av a lot of search engines such as Google Wikipedia ETC….check out the history of Christians and how it started then the history of the Sun God , and I think that will reduce the way we argue in this room…

  35. Anybody dat commiteth sin is of his father the DEVIL. All of who insulted the man of God or anybody else can nw trace ur root.
    1. Past. Kumuyi is nt forcing anybody to obey him beside he said that to his members.
    2. If you ar heavenly minded,if u really want to get to heaven minor things like these shouldnt eat u up. U need to be dead to the flesh.
    3. The truth is always bitter and hard to take. Why ar u so mad at past. Kumuyi for saying this? Cos he doesnt want u to satisfy ur fleshly lust ryt?
    4. There’s no December on the jews calender. They actuali start dia year around september. If christ wasnt born on 25 Dec why most dis same day be choosen to commemorate the birth christ out of 365 days?
    5. Christ lived on earth for 33yrs did ever celebrate his birthday while he was here? Did his disciple and the early church celebrate christ’s birth?
    6. Constantine was nt a christian jst a many of us here. He worshiped the Sun god. Dat worship was done every 25th decemba and it later changed to xmas. Xo instead of insulting the man go and do some research ok?

  36. My ppl,I was once in deeper life,but d fact is,pastor Kumuyi was preaching to his members and not d public,so journalist pin point opnly that one.He has his reasons for that and his members are not disputing,what is d stress of d public?Is he talking to pblic?He is d General suprintendent of Deeper life and this is what he wants.Public stop critizising .Only God has d final say.My view is do u love urslf not to tlk of othersb4 celebrating xmas?

  37. D idea of introdcng chritianity ws 2 abolish all dos ilegal pattrn of worship like idols. So it is wise 4 christians 2 use 25th as xmas 2 subdue dat of d sun god. Isaiah lamented d comng of christ nd He cam. In lif 2 tngs are invlvd birth nd death. 4 one 2 die he must hv bn born. Chrst ws born in d season of wnter nd dis is our own wnter. D hv abandond d ten comndmnts 2 criticiz in d nam of truth. God knws who are hs pepple. By Uche Esther .

  38. If u ppl like talk from now tin next december, what i know and am sure of is this; IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS MORE THAN 60% OF CHURCHES IN NIGERIA WILL COPY THE SAME THING…
    LUV MY DADDY KUMUYI; He’s a Godsent 2 dis Generation…
    Calvarys greetings 2 all DCLM members worldwild

  39. THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRISTMAS. DO YOu Care about spiritual truth? If so, then perhaps you have asked these questions: (1) Was Jesusactually born on December 25? (2). Who were the “wise men,” and were they really three in number? (3) What sort of “star” led them to Jesus? (4) What does Santa Claus have to do with Jesus and his birth? (5) How does God view the Christmas custom of giving gifts or, to be more precise, exchanging gifts. Let us now consider these questions in the light of the Bible and historical facts

  40. Zachary, who,
    as high-priest , entered the Temple on the Day of
    Atonement , received therefore announcement of John’s
    conception in September; six months later Christ was
    conceived, i.e. in March, and born accordingly in
    December.

  41. jesus did nt cul us christians d name came into play long after jesus ascended, bt today it’s generally accepted why? cos de bible says wateva 2or3 agree & bind on earth in my name is so in heaven therefor christmas celebration is nt bad bt hw is don

  42. Is it because of enjoyment we claim 2 enjoy that day or b/cos it started long ago that we wil not do bible tin in bible way. Xmas was not comanded by christ, not in the act of the apostle,not in the letters of d apostles nd not in d foundation of the prophet. Why are we adding to the word of God(gal.1:8-9).lets cal spade a spade.is Christ born in ur heart, are u born again, Celebrate Christ birth daily in ur heart.GOD BLESS U ALL.

  43. WEL KUMUYI IS RIGHT IN HIS OPINION AN BLIEV. DE POINT IS DAT U CHOOCE 4 YOUR SELF 2 celebrate GOD(christ birth) O O gods (sungod) is up 2 u. ALL I KNOW DE SHEPHERDS CELEBRATE HIM IN WORSHIP WIT GIFTS. DIA4, AM ON MY WAY 2 CHURCH. MERRY CHRISTMAS!

  44. The Great Catholic Church, through the power of the Holy Spirit set this Day a special day for the celebration of the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Ever since Contantin directed that 25th December should be recognized as the day to celebrate Christ,the leaves, the weather, the festive mood of God’s creation just like the Angels and the three wise men were touched by the same holy Spirit to Celebrate the Great King of Kings, are testified witnesses that this day is accepted both in Heaven and on earth for God’s children to be happy. The importance of this day is also told to children both in nursery and primary schools. What of Russians,only who celebrate their own birth of Christ on the 7th of January every year. The most important thing is for us Christians to stop looking for avenues to cause confusion so as to gain members or customers. After all a person does not own church and every offering made every Sunday should be used as the Bible directed in James 1;27.
    kumuyi, you people that asks, is it in the Bible to do this or that, let me ask you, is there any place in the Bible that Paul the Apostle married or owns a particular Church? Did Christ use Helicopters of private jets to preach the Gospel. As I mentioned earlier, how are the orphans and widows in your church taken care of ETC? Ponder strongly on this portion of the Bible at 1John 4: 20.

  45. I wonder wat †ђξ confusion is about. We are nt saying Christ was born on the 25th December, but Christians the world over have set that day aside to commemorate and celebrate the birth of Our Lord Jesus. Wether or not it was a day for †ђξ Sun-god worship, is of no concern to us, ofcourse we neva knew who de sun god was. We (true christians) are celebrating Christ coming to the world to redeem us frm our sins. Read †ђξ Bible in Luke 2:13-14, the angels started the celebration, so ♓☺w much more we that He came for? Kumuyi shd stop preaching heresy- that’s if he actually said that. Christ-mas is worth celebrating Α̲̅πϑ is scriptural.

  46. · Christmas has always been a holiday celebrated carelessly. For millennia,
    pagans, Christians, and even Jews
    have been swept away in the season’s
    festivities, and very few people ever
    pause to consider the celebration’s
    intrinsic meaning, history, or origins. · Christmas celebrates the birth of the Christian god who came to rescue
    mankind from the “curse of the
    Torah.” It is a 24-hour declaration
    that Judaism is no longer valid. · Christmas is a lie. There is no Christian church with a tradition that Jesus was really born on December 25th. · December 25 is a day on which Jews have been shamed, tortured, and
    murdered. · Many of the most popular Christmas customs – including Christmas trees,
    mistletoe, Christmas presents, and
    Santa Claus – are modern incarnations
    of the most depraved pagan rituals
    ever practiced on earth…xo therefore PASTOR W.F.KUMUYI was right about xmas..

  47. Although there was nothing like date before d birth of Jesus, d chosen date for his birth is meant for worshipping god of sun. If Christians want to appreciate and celebrate His birth another date could be chosen, as we Muslims do for the Holy Prphet Muhammed (SAW).

  48. Pastor Kumuyi, i respect U 4 standing on the truth. Christianity does not condem thinking, asking question and seeking for deep revelation unlike other religion. Christianity is continues revelation untill we get to full knowledge and standard of God. we should not be like unbelievers who like covering errors whenever they are discover in their faith. Thank God for pastors like Daddy Kumuyi who can boldly revel where we as christian error as a result of early influence of some powerful countries then who mixed christianity n idolatries of their nations. Let us keep purging ourselves n our faith from idolatries. The Holy Spirit is given for this purpose(He Holy Spirit can teach us all things……..). Christ Our Saviour, Christianity the Life! God bless us

  49. …if heaven is ur ultimate goal, not celebrating christmas will not be a thing to argue about. when a man as kumuyi who has a big heart for God speaks, we should listen. but its unfortunate that it is only those that are heaven-bound will listen and understand. Noah warned the pple about the flood but they neva took heed of it. Jesus said just as it was in the days of Lot and Noah, so shall it b when d Christ will come. pple will b eating,drinking…b wise friends. He that has ears let him hear!

  50. Kumuyi warned his members about the use of television long ago but today…..Deeper life watch TV even in their church service
    Talking about Idulatory…..do u know how many deeper life members the worship of Kumuyi has turned into idle worshipers?
    I expect Kumuyi in his position to talk more constructive and more productively than talk like a pastor who has just be made a pastor…..
    Finally am sorry for all those christains who look up to our so called spiritual leaders to life their christain life rather than follow Jesus and the bible (not misinterpreted Bible) but as it really states…..
    For muslims, leave us alone face ur own and leave us with our own…….

  51. I’m nt a christian bt i think i’m some how familier with d doctrine of DCLM. Dis year Dec retreat wil be d first dat came up b4 xmas n there was reasons for dat. WF kumuyi is man who knws Bible and he is one of d best pastor’s dat says d truth n i cherished. Take it o leave it, d pastor is right. Celebrate d holiday bt nt xmas

  52. A gross misconception and an exhibition of confusion. If you don’t believe in Xmas stay clear of the holiday associated with it. Pastors don’t have monopoly of knowledge and I advise his members not to antagonize criticism.

  53. its just like saying how can jesus convert u who was a sinner into a holy and righteous person? if jesus did the same what stops us from doing the same to christmas? or perhaps u used to save money for beer then u gave ur life to christ u decided to use the same money u used for beer for offering is anything wrong in that? all this doctrines are killing the body of christ pls keep ur doctrines to urself we don’t need it

  54. Pls lets help ourselves out of this mess, called ‘religious fanatic’ and get on the right track with christ. Why not go back to your Bible and search through and through if the pastor is bringing in his own doctrines and teaching into the church or the pastor now has an ulterior motive rather than leading people to heaven. Remember,the Thessalonica church; they went home searching the scripture when Paul finish preaching message to them to know if Paul was decieving them or pronoucing to them what christ has command. My candid advice is that every one of us should go home and search the scripture and forget about ‘christmas, right or wrong. Do ur research and reprove him, (pastor w.f kumuyi) he will take correction

  55. U guyz are just talking bla bla bla…all i know is dat kumuyi has hit de nail on it head,he spoke dat according to the inspirition of thr holy spirit(quote) me right as history carings the birth of Jesus christ what of that of “God”which is he’s father? How many things hav u celebrated Gods birthday?Please we need to be reasonable enough

  56. There is one problem that has posed unrectified since I grew up to view religion,the problem is that Christians are not ready to unite unlike other religion who love theirselves and are ready to dance to a single tone.Christians only protect their varieties of denomination instead of having a fixed target”HEAVEN”. Christ came for the poor wretched sinners not for self righteous fellow.Let us re-unite CHRISTIANS.

  57. Pentecost was actually a feast of Jews. Apostles locked themselves, praying in upper room. But others were outside celebrating pentecost. Now, while they were still insid, the Holy Ghost came upon them. Today, we use d day of pentecost to celebrate Christians’ day of receiving power because The Holy Ghost descended on that day. Does it make it wrong? NO! We only replace evil with Good. There is nothing wrong with celebrating Xmas.

  58. It’s true Christ wasn’t born on Dec.25th, but it’s also true that those who chose to celebrate are not children of Satan or idolaters. GS/GO of Deeper life is not infallible.
    This same church were once up against TV, calling it all sort of devilish names – ‘akpoti esu (the devils seat)’. But today are their programmes not being erred on TV etc?

    Besides, they go to church on Sunday’s and use such names as Mondays , Tuesdays etc. Does our dear GO/GS not know that these names of the weeks are not derived from the bible but are names of ancient Greek gods/goddess?

    Apart from using the ‘demonic’ names of days, is our GO/GS not aware that the Sabbath (Seventh day of the week) as ordained by God was altered by a supposed idolater – Emperor Constantine? Does keep/observed the status of the Sabbath as directed by GOd?

    Please,please, please, I believe people are entitled to their opinions and believes BUT THEN IT IS ABSOLUTE HYPOCRISY FOR ANY ONE PERSON TO ARROGATE PERFECTION AND INFALLIBILITY ABOVE AND OVER ALL OTHER RELIGIOUS /NON-RELIGIOUS MINDS OVER A SUBJECT LIKE CHRISTMAS OR ANY OTHER AT THAT.

  59. Pentecost was actually a feast of Jews. Apostles locked themselves, praying in upper room. But others were outside celebrating pentecost. Now, while they were still insid, the Holy Ghost came upon them. Today, we use d day of pentecost to celebrate Christians’ day of receiving power because The Holy Ghost descended on that day. Does it make it wrong? NO! We only replace evil with Good. There is nothing wrong with celebrating Xmas…

  60. Pastor Kumuyi was right but the Roman Emperor Constantine also did what was right,,though it wasnt in the Bible but this Saint convert a day of idol worship to reverent Christ,,,didnt we celebrate our birthdays and loveones and fix dates and places for them.We Nigerian dont have regard for histories and this is affecting us seriously…A Roman Emperor Constantine a Saint in christ did this to preach the gospel to reinforce the purpose of Christ’s birth and His salvation to mankind in our heart,,,if you dont regard him,Christ has honored and reward him,,so what are we doing here on earth to announce Christ so that His name would not be wiped away..My brethren in Christ let stop this attitude of castigating,,this is the time to reflect on the message the birth of Christ preaches to us all,,ok ????

  61. Long long time my there brother in The Lord has choosing to be an argumentum man of God. In early 70’s -80’s he preached against TV, Radio, and many others things but now who is using the best of it all. Sir why are you using the holiday Xmas holiday period to do your conference? Did you know that holiday didn’t come in its own? Please sir stop what have nothing to do with Salvation of our soul. If you arqueid on date that’s defferent but defend your member not to observe Xmas you’re deceiving yourself. Remember you’re old and you’re going back home, you better build the house of God well with good doctrine instead of controversy that will break it after you. Anybody above 70 should begin to prepare is strong work because anything can happen @ 70+.

  62. Its such a pity that our so called spiritual leaders are misinterpreting the Bible.
    Jesus was born on Xmas day. Xmas has being in existence before Jesus, though an idolatry celebration according to history, But thanks to God who gave us Jesus to erase that idol. We are celebrating JESUS!!! on Xmas day and not celebrating Xmas.
    Am sure he believes in the death and resurrection of Jesus, then why should we not celebrate his birth?

  63. He that has ear let him hear what the spirit is saying….but he shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free..the truth has been laid down for you it is now left for you to pick it and make use of it….but don’t let the earthly things make you loose heaven….heavenly race is a thing of perfection…mathew 5:48

  64. Many questions to ask. Was jesus born at all? Was he born at the same period of the cellebration? Is jesus God? Is God the owner and creator of all days? Is cellebration of xmass a sin? Is it every thing that we do that is in the bible?is the sabath sunday? Is there car in the bible?is the birth of jesus not worthy to be cellebrated? Is bithday cellebration biblical? Let stop all this talk that does not glorify God and stop brainwashing people, let’s use this medium to spread the goodnews that once a time jesus was burn he died to save us from desruction that anyone that accept him will be with him in heaven. I want to be with him that settles it. The bigest problem in christiandom is defrent doctrin and dogma.please let our spiritual fathers face their calling an not ridicule our religion befor unbelivers.remember every one will give account to God.

  65. Y are christians fighting their fellow christians, if u are not celebrating christmas must u say it out, y not do it in ur own way, are u now d POPE? Gone are days wen people don’t read their bible, follow which ever verse of d bible u choose, if u say ur own 25th dec is idol worshipin day, mine says is the celebration n rememberence of d christs birth, by d way, since u know every thing, wen was christ born? I do really want to know. Merry christmas, one love once christ and one saviour

  66. Old story, this same issue brought an argument between i and a muslim. We christain dont have to handle tins lyk d unbelievers, it brings mockery to the church, celebrate and praise God d best way u can but have it on d table of ur mind that it is not a passport to heaven. What matter most is ur right stand with God……MOSES MIDE

  67. a blind man that want to lead another blind man do u know what will happen? Continue I just wonder how devil enter the church of this generation and use our different bible theology to cause conviction on unnecessary things, pls dont Give devil attention so that he will not give you direction, Muslim celebrate his prophet birth, ifa people celebrate ifa day, what is the problem if we Christian choose a day to celebrate our lord Jesus Christ,? Christian of this generation what is your problem ?, there is still more land to gain for our God, see boko harram destroy lives, kingdom of darkness increase every day, we can not differential between the church and the world, yet what is not count is what we are after, this period is a period to tell people about Christ, serious minded mission Christian will use this opportunity to travel to where the gospel is not preach and reach to them not this useless talk we are debate it on.

    We are agreed that Sunday is our Sabbath day, some people said no is Saturday and they worship on Sunday, no body talk because we dont need to condemn them, its what is believe that matter. Finally church and pastor of this generation has disappointed God and mislead millions of souls, and God his preparing another army for His kingdom, pastor kumuyi and other continue condeming another God avenue to reach the world, you will meet Him at His throne. Salom

  68. Some of us still speak in flesh… In 2 Timothy 4 v 3- For there is going to come a time when people won’t listen to the truth, but will go around looking for teachers who will tell them just what they want to hear. Is not by force. Do as Holy Spirit direct u. Don’t condemn man of God.

  69. I thank God dat Otoigidhi mentioned “d celebrate ration of sun god”. May I also remind u (Otoigidhi) dat Emperor Constantine was a renowned pegan until his death b4 his council members baptized him by sprinkling and proclaimed his dead body a Christian? Or is it dat u’re ignorant of d truth dat Jesus Christ has been proven not to have been born d 25 of December as we know it now? Pst. Kumuyi did nt say Christ’s birth should nt be remembered bt dat we r having a wrng idea of d truth, thus should b practiced in d right way.

  70. what pst w.f kumuyi is saying about the idolatrous cebebration of Christmas is very currect. Now i want you to all understand the fact that the truth is always bitter to speak but pst W.F kumuyi has choosen to stand by the truth and i pray that God should giv him more grace 2 continue what he has started. Now it is so unfortunate that the whole world has named 25 december as christmas but now can’nt we christians thinck right for once? Because that day calld christmas is the day that the highest evil is cormitted. Young and old drink ane become drunk, fall in2 funication, adultry, and alot are been iniciated. Alot of people die that day without Jesus. Christians say that they are cellebrating Christ but what they do is not realy celebrating Christ but they rather break the hat of God with thire actions and give joy a ratan. Pastors, bishiops, pop, reveren, priest, christains let us thnk right. And stop condeming some 1 who is standing by the truth.

  71. Peganism, Romanism, Catholism, Chris+mas etc are all idolatries. They leads one to hell-fire(lake of fire) without true repentance at last. What is it that conceal the truth? Am not of this denormination yet more bitter truth are preached. You may or may not accept then leave the Church.

  72. y do people castigate the only ture church de church brought by christ himself remember the words of the scribe during the time of the apostolic matrydom “leave them for if what dey do is not of God they shall not suceed” which is more dan 2000 yrs ago and the church still stood despite all persecutions. all wat de do are in de bible do research and clear your ignorance our seperated brothers . we do not say christ was born on 25th dec but as a rememberance of that day.ee do not worship statues but have dem to remver christ and know that he is with us.as he told moses to make the covenant box in rememberance i know u would say the first comamadment is against dat but God commanded moses to make a covenant box as a sign that he is with dem.

  73. Historically speaking, we all know that Before the people of the earth returned to the worship of the true God again, each of the days of the week had been dedicated to one idol or the other. God did not create a new 8th day for the purpose of the birth of Jesus Christ. He was born on one of the existing days. All Christian authorities have ratified one day , December 25 for a global campaign that there is hope for the fallen man after all. It does not matter that some other people use that same day for other purposes. Some people kill fowls for rituals, should Christian’s therefore not eat chicken?
    Jesus also did not instruct Hs disciples to worship on sunday. It started as a practice linked to His frequent and regular appearance after resurrection. I am sure the Reverend gentleman must have been misquoted. He has the spirit of Gd and he is a man of knowledge.

  74. Well, to me i will neither conden the selebration of christmass or neither should i conden pastor wf kumuyi,s comment because christmass is selebrated according to the believe of every individual. you will only selebrate it according to your beleive and your faith in our lord jesus christ.

  75. Its not new or funny,but the truth is that it is written in the bible that at the last day 2peter2:1-end,false prophet will ariseamong the people just as theere will be false teacher among you,who will secretlybring in destructive heresies,even deny the master whobrought them,mny will follow liventiousness and because of them the way of the truth will be reviled.read 2peter2:1-end for further understanding of the last day,judge not so the ye may not be judge,am a christian and I know who I serve,those that keep arguing are confused and are yet to know who they really serve,when u know whomu serve then ur mind will be at rest and never listen to any word tht contradict what is in the bible,u can’t read the bible without sking for the understanding of the HolySpirit because HolySpirit is the greatest secret revealer,for furtherstudy Read 2peter3:1-end.1john2,3,4and 5.then u will know more about Jesus Christ and His coming back to the world and the signs of the end time.so the reason xtainity is different from any otherreligion is because we know whom we serve and when u know Him better u are a point of jealous for others,so keep to ur believe serve God with all your heart and try to pray and seek for more undrestanding to truly know whomuserve.Finally,let’s all think and ask ourselves where am I going if I die now or the kingdom of God just come now,heaven or hell?,only God knows who really serve Him,not ur celebration,ur dressing,ur movement or ur religion give u the guarantee for making heaven,hmmm.Let’s celebrate the birth,the death and the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ…pleasechristiansbe aware andcareful of the last time and don’t be deceive by any party…God will help us to inherit the kingdom of God with Him..Heaven is our gain as a believer and not criticism of one another.Merry christmas

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  77. Yes Pastor W F Kumuyi may see celebration of Christmas in the wrong perspective. Look at the following scriptures carefully and examine them. Matth 1:18-21, Luke 2:1-20. The birth of Jesus brings good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people including Pastor W F Kumuyi.
    But it is very wrong for one to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ in a worldly way. Look at this again, Eph 5:1-7, 1 Thes 4:1-8, 1 Co 6:7-11.

  78. I mourn 4 u all who had d guts 2 criticize dis selfless man of God cos it d guts dat leads 2 destruction. Bring u all in2 analysis, none com close 2 him in both scriptural n academic acquisition, not even in logical wisdom n sound reasoning. A man dat was invited by n has addressed d British Parliament cos of his known wealth of scriptural knowledge. Who has done n is doing wat many other men of God can’t do in d bid 2 help people get 2 heaven. If u don’t kno ds man plz go n inquire n research abt him n kno how different he is. The way 2 heaven is NOT d popular way, cos only a few of d world’s 7bn finds it. I marvel at d arguments ppl make here. If u are truely born again n havnt left ur 1st love-if u kno wot i mean- den ur words n thots would b guided by d Holy Spirit n not flesh or sentiment. For u who hate Deeper Life, watch out: U shall soon be a saved member, n a zealous 1 @ dat. It is d way of d cross(dat harsh way) dat leads home. Ask Christ n d Apostles

  79. You all should know Christmas is not made for everybody, many celebrate whatever they like, But we all knows Christian is a right day to Celebrate in the Sake of our Lord Jesus Christ. Nobody should judge , for the Lord we judge , the end time shall tell Jesus is Lord……….

  80. Plzzzzzz pst kumuyi is nt anybody’s mate here,I c no reason y we should 2lk abt him lyk,he’s damn ryt abt d xmas tin,u guys should go get a life or probably go hug transformer cuz my pastor is bubbling in Gods presence tank u all.

  81. Out of 365/366 days we cn nt choose one day 2 celebrate d birth of Jesus Christ, bt we celebrate d day of his dead (easter) woe!! 2 we chritian teachers, 4 dey r misleading us. God only u knw ur 2rue woshippers (Christ 4 d masses)

  82. The pastor is saying the right thing… How can we drink smoke nd womanize… And then call it celebrating the lord ..it is very wrong ..satan is just using the things of the world to convert us ….I supprt pastor wf kumyi is is right

  83. Now, this is one of the hardest math i have ever solve. after integratring, integrating and integrating the whole idea the final anwser shows that the birth of christ is worth celebrating but most people celebrate it in a very wrong way. secondly the word CHRISTMAS is a combination of two words, christ and mas. Now all christians have no doubt about the word CHRIST so lets now work on the word MAS which is a short form of the word MASQUERADE. mas means carnival or festivities while the later means disguising costume, disguising pretense, pretend ie pretending to be somebody or something else. now lets proceed by differentiating the word CHRISTMAS. here my anwser shows that the word is not ideal for its presume occation, most people dont celebrate christ on christmas day, they only pretend to be celebrating christ but they are not. The problem now is that we can not change this word in the dictionary but we can change our mindset towards it. My suggestion is that church leaders should use this period to turn unrepented haerts to christ by telling them that the time for grater celebration with christ is coming and that sinners will never take part in it and not just telling this but tell them who a sinner is. So help me God

  84. George has constructively contributed to this issue at hand, if Constantine, going by the spokesperson for the Christian Association of Nigeria, Oshodi chapter, Lagos State, Pastor Barnabas Otoibhi . He said ” the origin of Christmas, as we know it, could be traced to Roman Emperor, Christmas was a day for celebrating the Sun God. However, because Constantine was a Christian, the day was changed to commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ”. and the comment made by Tate Joseph O.”May I also remind u (Otoigidhi) dat Emperor Constantine was a renowned pagan until his death b4 his council members baptized him by sprinkling and proclaimed his dead body a Christian”. borrowing from the analytical expression of George Christmas means CHRIST+MASCURADE. these are two unlike terms. Constantine was not a christian before he died, it is not possible for a dead corps to accept Jesus it is a mis-normal. Mr Otoigidbi please make more research. My own assessment of the criticism shows that over 87% are against Pastor Kumuyi 13% supported. This is a very good replica of Bible injunction and instructions that many are called but few are chosen. heaven is not a must but a matter of choice, if only 8 people could be saved in the world, 3 people out of Sodom, only two out of millions that came out of Egypt Joshua and Caleb, Jesus say the kingdom of God suffer Violence only the violent takes it not with ease but by force, then everybody should know that God is not wicked for creating honey and hid it inside Bee, Gold is found down down the earth. do you fetch crude oil like water, you cannot serve God and mammon-money, to sleep on Delila’s lap and expect to wake at Abraham Bosom, impossible my people. You want to enjoy the things of this world, Christmas,parties,carefree life,indecency in dressing,praise cos,discos,cars,women,men,bribery,…and still go to heaven? He said wide is the road….and many go in…because it will accommodate you and your girlfriend, your concubine, alcohol, hatred,nudity,all the -woods.’ but straight is the way and narrow the gate leading to heaven, few find it! many go in is different from few find it you need to find it before you enter. Love not the world, follow the steps of the 1st original church where the holy ghost said separate me Barnabas and Paul, no argument, no fighting just obey, these were heaven minded people. until the cross crosses you and crush your will know that you have not started the race to heaven. Pastor W. F Kumuyi truly this message is full, but fiery and fresh; convicting but clarifying and comforting; liquid but lovely and lively. Please sir give us more fire so we can be refilled refueled and refined!

  85. The problem we have is that we have been so blind folded about religion but thank God that the truth about the good news is coming up and understood by some of the clergies who make out their good time to go down digging for the spiritual gem.
    w. F. Kumuiyi is on point. Not just Christmas there are other celebrations today that is also not good for anybody who call themselves true Christians.

  86. The bible says that we are not justified by observing the law but by faith in Christ Jesus, if it is by law no one would be saved and Jesus Christ would have not died. Read Galatians 2 and 3
    All these things you people are arguing is rubbish, becos if you don’t have Jesus Christ in your life you’re on the wrong track and also a candidate of hell.
    Just stop all these arguments and accept Jesus Christ in your life as your Lord and Personal Saviour by confessing all your sins and forsake them and also believe in Jesus Christ.

    Start today to live your life for Jesus Christ by obeying and walking with Him in faith and purity. His grace is enough for us.
    Always remember that you must leave this earth one day and Heaven is your “destiny” and your “goal”.

    BEAR THAT IN “MIND”!!!
    DO NOT BE “DECEIVE”.

  87. To each their own. Scripture is clear: whether you choose to celebrate Christmas, Easter or any other holiday in honor of Christ, or you choose not to, YOU ARE RIGHT.
    Those who celebrate should not condemn those who do not, as long as the celebration is made UNTO THE LORD. Let each person be fully convinced in their own mind that what they are doing is right. That is the standard of the Bible.
    Want proof? Here it is, in plain pages of Scripture:

    Romans 14:5-7:
    “5 One man regards a certain day above the others, while someone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.
    6 He who observes a special day does so to the Lord; he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives to himself alone, and none of us dies to himself alone”.

    Now, notice that Paul mentioned eating in the passage (other than the talk about special or no special days). The eating actually refers to food that has been sacrificed to idols before it was sold in the market for consumption. The Apostle went so far to say that if you are convinced that the food is a provision from God, go ahead and eat it; don’t worry yourself. Idols are nothing.